Fox News host Tucker Carlson declared Tuesday night that the United States hasn’t been a “very racist country” since the Civil War because we now have a “ton of inter-marriage and even more immigration.”
Carlson, who is currently under fire for making bigoted, sexist and homophobic remarks during shock radio appearances years ago, made the observation while discussing the issue of reparations for American descendants of slavery.
“Because it’s actually not a very racist country, we’ve had a ton of intermarriage, and even more immigration over the 150 years since slavery ended,” Carlson insisted.
As Mediaite notes, “interracial marriage was not fully legal in the United States until the Supreme Court’s 1967 decision in Loving v. Virginia.”
Carlson appeared to be making the argument that reparations to the descendants of slaves are unnecessary in a society where racism has been eradicated and where “tons” of interracial marriage is happening.
At one point, Carlson referred to reparations as a “reward,” asking his guest Jason Nichols, a professor of African-American studies at the University of Maryland, “How would you decide who gets rewarded and who doesn’t?”
“Number one I don’t think we should think of it as a reward,” Nichols said. “We should think of it as a debt being paid that has been owed for a long time. The idea of reward or punishment is…”
Carlson cut him off, asking “The money, who gets the money?”
As the professor tried to explain that reparations would be owed to the descendants of enslaved Africans, Carlson continued to cut him off, asking for “specifics” like “If my ancestors came in 1980, am I on the hook for paying?”
Carlson also asked if reparations could mean an end to affirmative action, but Nichols patiently explained that reparations are meant to address “economic issues that are involved or that came from the institution of slavery,” while “affirmative action and many of the other programs that have been used to address discrimination, a lot of times they are used to address discrimination right now.”
“So let me just be clear, we pay reparations, but we keep affirmative action,” Carlson mused. When Nichols explained that white women have been the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action, Carlson chimed in that “the system has been scammed like no other, nobody should have been a beneficiary,” then attacked Elizabeth Warren.