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Pompeo Called Hannity To Ask if Giuliani’s Allegations Against Me Were True: Ambassador Yovanovitch


Pompeo Called Hannity To Ask if Giuliani’s Allegations Against Me Were True: Ambassador Yovanovitch

Someone at the top of the State Department contacted Fox News host Sean Hannity to verify allegations made against former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovich, according to a transcript of Yovanovitch’s Oct. 11 deposition in front of congressional impeachment investigators.

The “unfounded and false claims” were made as part of a successful campaign by Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and his allies to oust her.

Inquiry transcripts show that Yovanovitch was told to praise Trump if she wanted to secure her job.

Yovanovitch said that Phil Reeker, a senior State Department official, told her after she was recalled from Kyiv that Trump had wanted her out since mid-summer 2018, at least.

“I was shocked,” she said.

According to page 117 of the transcript, Yovanovitch spoke about being recalled from her post. Congressman Adam Schiff (D-CA) asked if she ever found out Pompeo’s position regarding the attacks Giuliani lobbed against her.

The former ambassador explained that Pompeo or some other high-ranking State Department official called Hannity to ask if these attacks on her had any merit.

Schiff: And did you ever find out when, you know, the allegations were being made or the attacks were being made by Donald Trump, Jr., or Rudy Giuliani, did you ever find out what the Secretary of State’s position, whether the Secretary of State was going to defend you or not, apart from the refusal by the Secretary to issue a statement in your defense?

Yovanovitch: What I was told by Phil Reeker was that the Secretary or perhaps somebody around him was going to place a call to Mr. Hannity on Fox News to say, you know, what is going on? I mean, do you have proof of these kinds of allegations or not? And if you have proof, you know, telI me, and if not, stop.

And I understand that that call was made. I don’t know whether it was the Secretary or somebody else in his inner circle. And for a time, you know, things kind of simmered down.

Schiff: I mean, does that seem extraordinary to you that the Secretary of State or some other high-ranking official would call a talk show host to figure out whether you should be retained as ambassador?

Yovanovitch: Well…I’m not sure that’ s exactly what was being asked.

Schiff: Well , they were asking if what basis they…was Hannity one of the people criticizing you?

Yovanovitch: Yes.

Schiff: So some top administration official was going to him to find out what the basis of this Fox host was attacking you for?

Yovanovitch: Uh-huh.

Schiff: And did you ever get any readout on what the result of that conversation was?

Yovanovitch: No, I didn’t, although I was told that it did take place.

Yovanovich testified that she told Under Secretary of State David Hale she wanted Pompeo to “issue a statement that said, you know, I have his full confidence or something like that, to indicate that I, in fact, am the ambassador in Ukraine, and that I speak for the President, for the Secretary of State, for our country.”

She said Hale replied that he would speak with the secretary, but no statement of support for her ever came.

Yovanovich testified that later, she heard from Reeker that there was concern that Trump might undermine a public statement of support for her.


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