Former U.S. Rep. Joe Walsh, who is now running in the Republican caucuses to unseat President Trump, greeted attendees waiting in line outside the president’s rally at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa, on Thursday.
“I’m here to win some voters,” Walsh said in an interview. “They’re conservatives here. I’m a conservative. Maybe I can change some minds.”
In one tense moment, Walsh engaged in a heated back and forth with a Trump supporter over the president’s truthfulness.
In December, the Washington Post reported that Trump had made 15,413 false or misleading claims in less than three years in office.
Joe Walsh has appeared. He’s meeting people in line. Surreal pic.twitter.com/739pTzjuRZ
— Graham Ambrose (@Grahambrose) January 30, 2020
The president’s supporter argued that the lies were irrelevant because the economy is good.
“My business and my 401k are better than they’ve ever been,” the man shouted back.
“Has Adam Schiff ever lied to the American people?” a pro-Trump vendor shouted at Walsh. “Has Shifty Schiff ever lied to anybody? Just spent hours lying through his teeth but he’s got immunity. He can just lie all day.”
“I’ll give you my answer,” Walsh told the man. “I don’t think Schiff has lied to us.”
“I think he has, he knew the whistleblower,” the man responded before he was asked if Trump has ever told a lie, to which he said, “No, Never!”
“It just makes me really sad that they can’t say anything bad about Donald Trump,” Walsh told the camera after speaking to dozens of the president’s supporters. “I mean, anything bad. I can say something bad about any politician.”
“But it really is like a cult and you don’t realize that until you talk to folks,” Walsh said, becoming emotional. “It’s a shame.
Republican candidate for President @WalshFreedom walks down the line at #TrumpRallyIA asking, “Has Trump ever lied to the American people?” The replies are revealing. #DrakeUniversity #ImpeachmentTrialSham pic.twitter.com/Y6GvL4sGRe
— Annabel Park (@annabelpark) January 31, 2020
“As a Christian, I accept that people aren’t perfect,” said Heather Stancil, a Trump supporter from Earlham, Iowa. “Politics is downstream from culture. Until we change our culture, I don’t think we’re going to fix our politics.”
Other Trump supporters compare Trump to the alternative: Democrats.
“They’re corrupt, liars,” said Jim Ashton, from Fort Dodge, Iowa. “They are evil.”
“I love our president,” said Underberg. “Trump is for our people.”